TPS Ep. 047 – Recording a Double-Ender Podcast

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When you want the absolute best quality recording from your remotely co-hosted podcast, you record a double-ender.

A double-ender is a type of recording where everyone on the podcast episode records their own audio. This allows for the cleanest sound possible, removing the unwanted noise problems you might get from such things as Skype or the telephone.

While this method does create more work for the editor (e.g. lining up clips, transferring files) you do end up with the best recording possible because everyone has recorded their microphones directly into their own software or recording device.

The basic workflow is as follows:
1. Everyone records their own audio (into Audacity or any other recording software or their own digital audio recorder).
2. Each person uploads their audio to a server so that the person doing the post production can gather all the audio files.
3. The editor lines up the audio tracks in an audio editor and does the normal post production (leveling, sweetening, etc.)
4. Export and finish the same way you would any other podcast episode (ID tags, show notes, etc).

In this episode I team up with Steve from NetcastStudio.com to record a double-ender podcast about recording double-ender podcasts. Listen as we describe the steps in detail and pay attention to the great sound quality we get from the process. It’s like we’re sitting in the same studio even though in reality I was on the East Coast and he is on the West.

Links mentioned in this episode
MicToob.com – A YouTube like site (user generated) dedicated to microphones (reviews, unboxings, demos, etc.)

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About Ray Ortega

Full-time podcast producer and host of The Podcasters' Studio and Podcasters' Roundtable, I enjoy sharing my ten years of experience making podcasts to help others improve or start their own show.

Comments

  1. Congrats for getting these up on a regular basis.

    • PodcastHelper says:

      Bret it's actually been a few weeks since my last episode but I try my best to have content on a semi-regualr basis;) Thanks for listening and commenting!

  2. This episode is very timely for me. I want to start doing my regular show as a double-ender because we can never get a clean Skype connection with my co-host. I'm still not sure I understand how to change my cabling or mixer settings to record my end and both sides of the conversation as a back-up.

    • PodcastHelper says:

      Bob, Are you recording to a separate recorder or into the computer? Also are you on a mac or pc? If you're using software only, you need to get the recording software and skype to both hear you audio. This is easily accomplished via free software for the mac called LineIn and Soundflower. I don't know of a Windows equivalent. If you are going out to a recorder than it's even easier because you simply send the mixers audio into the computer via the main mix out or aux out if you're doing a mix-minus and then the recorder gets the audio out of the tape out or another output depending on your mixer. You could also probably accomplish this by using two computers (a desktop and laptop) if you have them or by using a some recording software like Total Recorder or one of the many others based on your OS. There are many potential options, we just have to understand better what equipment you're using. Thanks.

      • I have the Cliff Ravenscraft setup: Heil PR40, Behrninger 4600 MDX compressor/limiter/gate, Mackie VLZ3 1402 mixer, Edirol R-05. I am using a Windows laptop to connect via Skype, but I may buy a Mac Mini for this.

        I'm also curious about the most cost-effective okay quality solution is for the co-host. He has a USB Yeti mic connected to his iMac that he uses for Skype. He does own an iPad so I have considered the Alesis iO Dock.

        I wan to do the double-ender, but also record the whole thing from my setup as a back-up.

  3. PodcastHelper says:

    I don't see any problem with keeping the Yeti and using it via Skype. If his environment is quite and he uses proper technique when speaking into the mic he should get great audio. I think some USB mics can also connect to the iPad via the USB camera kit…in fact check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STzzmge4MwY

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  1. […] (Windows) as well as a recorder that has the proper inputs (see the embedded video below) or a double-ender which I detailed in on TPS047. There are also more difficult solutions using a series of virtual audio […]

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